Kirkens og pressens uafhængighed i Danmark
For at demonstrere at ytringsfriheden har overlevet i DK, primært takket være Jyllandspostens tapre modstandskamp mod islamisternes overherredømme, vil jeg starte med at bringe et "opslag" som bryder reglerne ved primært at være på engelsk. Her er ingen hellige kør.
Opslaget er tidligere bragt på en anden opslagstavle, som bestyres af en af mine gamle venner. Til alle jer som allerede har læst det der (tø hø), undskylder jeg genudsendelsen. Jeg vil understrege at jeg ikke har planer om at gå TV2 eller TV-Danmark i bedene. Genudsendelser vil være en undtagelse her på opslagstavlen. Genudsendelsen starter her:
A little comment about the so offently praised free danish press and secular state.
A lot has been said and written about the independence of the danish newspaper Jyllandsposten. Legaly there is no doubt that the paper i independent, but is that the end of the story ? Naaah!
Historicly the paper has been a formal part of the printed press assosiated with - and indirectly owned by - "venstre" the party of the danish primeminister. Allthough there is now longer a formal ralationship, the paper is still closely connected to "venstre", and it is certainly loyal to the current danish governent to a degree, that hardly justifies use of the word independant.
It is wellknown that the danish government uses Jyllandsposten and other right-wing newspapers to try out new ideas, and provoke irrational emotional reactions in the population by leaking carefully selected stories (Like the gang-wrape story). If the Mohammed cartoons was one of these "planted" stories, or if it just orriginated from the same rightwing environment, we will probably never know, and therefor I do agree that the government can not be held culpable in any leagal scense.
In Denmark our press is formaly independant in general, but that doesn't mean it is neutral by any means. All the major danish newspapers except "Information" are controlled by rightwing groups, and the 2 dominating TV stations (more than 90 % of viewers) are controled by boards appointed by the parlament, which is dominated by the rightwing government. Therefore the people of Denmark has to turn to international media to get objektive information. Lots of danes do not do that, and therefore the danish government is "having a ball" right now speaking in two tongues. In international televison our primeminister is talking about tolerance and dialog, but on danish televison the spokesman on integrationissues of "venstre" talks about muslims having to adopt to our way of life or leave the country!
Denmark is by the way in many ways a strange nation. We claim to be a secular state, but in fact we are not. We have a christian "peoples church", which you are born in to if your parents are members. If you do not actively dismember yourself, you pay taxes (0,7 % pa) to the christian church throughout your life. Also you have to go through a christian priest to give your children a name, also if you are not a christian. The highest authority within the "peoples chuch" is the minister of church,which is appointed by the primeminiter. Denmark a secular state? NO WAY.
Another fact about Jyllandsposten is that the paper i the 1930s printed lots of antisemitic editorials, that also praised the Nazi party of germany. This is allmost forgotten, also in Denmark, but it is evident to me that the paper and the rightwing environment in Denmark in general are following a path very simular to the path followed by western Europe in the 1930s, only this time the enimy that is accused of threatening "our way of life" is not the Jews but muslims. It is importans, that people all over the world are aware of the development in Denmark, and protest to it, but do not do so by threatening danish citicens or burning the danish flag. Reactions like that only accelerates the rightwing wave in Denmark.
I beleave in freedom of speach, and I beleave that Jyllandsposten legally had every right to publish the cartoons, allthough it was a stupid provocation, but these days in Denmark freedom of speach mainly applies for those who agree with the current government.
Sorry bout my english spelling.
For at demonstrere at ytringsfriheden har overlevet i DK, primært takket være Jyllandspostens tapre modstandskamp mod islamisternes overherredømme, vil jeg starte med at bringe et "opslag" som bryder reglerne ved primært at være på engelsk. Her er ingen hellige kør.
Opslaget er tidligere bragt på en anden opslagstavle, som bestyres af en af mine gamle venner. Til alle jer som allerede har læst det der (tø hø), undskylder jeg genudsendelsen. Jeg vil understrege at jeg ikke har planer om at gå TV2 eller TV-Danmark i bedene. Genudsendelser vil være en undtagelse her på opslagstavlen. Genudsendelsen starter her:
A little comment about the so offently praised free danish press and secular state.
A lot has been said and written about the independence of the danish newspaper Jyllandsposten. Legaly there is no doubt that the paper i independent, but is that the end of the story ? Naaah!
Historicly the paper has been a formal part of the printed press assosiated with - and indirectly owned by - "venstre" the party of the danish primeminister. Allthough there is now longer a formal ralationship, the paper is still closely connected to "venstre", and it is certainly loyal to the current danish governent to a degree, that hardly justifies use of the word independant.
It is wellknown that the danish government uses Jyllandsposten and other right-wing newspapers to try out new ideas, and provoke irrational emotional reactions in the population by leaking carefully selected stories (Like the gang-wrape story). If the Mohammed cartoons was one of these "planted" stories, or if it just orriginated from the same rightwing environment, we will probably never know, and therefor I do agree that the government can not be held culpable in any leagal scense.
In Denmark our press is formaly independant in general, but that doesn't mean it is neutral by any means. All the major danish newspapers except "Information" are controlled by rightwing groups, and the 2 dominating TV stations (more than 90 % of viewers) are controled by boards appointed by the parlament, which is dominated by the rightwing government. Therefore the people of Denmark has to turn to international media to get objektive information. Lots of danes do not do that, and therefore the danish government is "having a ball" right now speaking in two tongues. In international televison our primeminister is talking about tolerance and dialog, but on danish televison the spokesman on integrationissues of "venstre" talks about muslims having to adopt to our way of life or leave the country!
Denmark is by the way in many ways a strange nation. We claim to be a secular state, but in fact we are not. We have a christian "peoples church", which you are born in to if your parents are members. If you do not actively dismember yourself, you pay taxes (0,7 % pa) to the christian church throughout your life. Also you have to go through a christian priest to give your children a name, also if you are not a christian. The highest authority within the "peoples chuch" is the minister of church,which is appointed by the primeminiter. Denmark a secular state? NO WAY.
Another fact about Jyllandsposten is that the paper i the 1930s printed lots of antisemitic editorials, that also praised the Nazi party of germany. This is allmost forgotten, also in Denmark, but it is evident to me that the paper and the rightwing environment in Denmark in general are following a path very simular to the path followed by western Europe in the 1930s, only this time the enimy that is accused of threatening "our way of life" is not the Jews but muslims. It is importans, that people all over the world are aware of the development in Denmark, and protest to it, but do not do so by threatening danish citicens or burning the danish flag. Reactions like that only accelerates the rightwing wave in Denmark.
I beleave in freedom of speach, and I beleave that Jyllandsposten legally had every right to publish the cartoons, allthough it was a stupid provocation, but these days in Denmark freedom of speach mainly applies for those who agree with the current government.
Sorry bout my english spelling.
posted by Christian Olesen at 4:01 AM
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